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What is it?


Well, maybe it's a Tourer body on the 1929 15Hp Envoy, or a later 16Hp

Dear Phil.

Please find attached some photos of my Standard. Unfortunately I do not know what the car is called, only that it was registered on 15th September 1930. Chassis number is 117746 and she has a four speed box and worm drive rear axle. Any chance of Identifying her. Motor is a six cylinder side valve unit.


Hi Feliciano,

 

What a fascinating car, are you using it?

 

My apologies for not replying to your earlier email, but I have been trying to identify exactly what you have. We certainly have not seen this car before either in the flesh or even in a catalogue. It is probably a 15Hp based on the "Envoy" chassis of 1929 but I have no previous evidence of an open four seater body on that chassis. Certainly the factory made 4 seater tourers on the later 16Hp 32-33 chassis, I have a picture of this - although the wheels are from this, the screen and bodywork are quite diofferent. I hesitate to say its unique because then someone usually writes in with another!

 

Until I can prove it  has a factory built body,  I must assume it is coachbuilt by someone else. It does not appear to be Avon, who would be the most likely candidates but they didn't catalogue a 4 seater open-tourer in 1930.  The instruments are confusing, this is not a "Standard" dashboard at all and appears to be a creation by someone else, with a simple line of instrumemts. What is the belt driven pump, which appear to be an addition, is this a fuel pump replacing the Autovac?

 

The chassis number doesn't help me presently.

 

I will publish your pictures on the website and ask members if they can identify exactly what this is. What do you know of it's history?

 

Regards,

Phil Homer




Hello Phil,

Thanks for your reply. I bought the car some years ago . I have used the car and it really is quite smooth and comfortable to drive. I, like yourself, had never seen anything like it before and unfortunately I have no history for the vehicle. I had seen pictures of similar Sedan Vehicles and models of a slightly later date but nothing like mine.

Unfortunately I have little time to enjoy the vehicle anymore and she finds herself locked away more than out on the road these days and I have decided to sell it. I have been advised by an english friend that the car really needs to return to its roots, the uk, where it would most likely be enjoyed by a true enthusiast and given the chance to stretch her legs more often.

For this reason I am trying to discover her past so that I can pass on any information to a prospective buyer, and also I need to put some kind of value on it. Any ideas.

My apologies for asking so much of you people at the club with your very informative website. I never knew it or the club existed until my english friend pointed it out. Had I known sooner I would have joined.

Any help with either history, valuation or re homing would be greatly appreciated and hopefully will start the journey home to england for the old girl.

Should you require any more photos of any specific area please e mail me and I will gladly send them on. Also sorry for the joined up picture, she is a little long to fit in the shot. I will be taking some more outside shots in the coming weeks.

Thanks very much.

Feliciano

I am interested to learn if any members have views to add on my diagnosis of this car so I have opened a new thread on the message board for it. You will need to log in if you have not already done so.

I am aware that there are other cars and information that could be added to this site to make it more comprehensive, so if you have material and photographs, please let me know.  Please send me, Phil Homer, a message at: Phil Homer